tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post116131920951451324..comments2023-09-16T06:07:16.254-06:00Comments on GENERATION X-POSE the TRUTH: Public Schools Produce FOOLS!Dani Kekoahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-80252728681942722922010-09-11T04:40:29.469-06:002010-09-11T04:40:29.469-06:00Scientific Education is For Preparation For True W...<a href="http://baptistfaithdefender.blogspot.com/2010/09/scientific-education-is-for-preparation.html" rel="nofollow">Scientific Education is For Preparation For True Worship of God, Not Rejection of God</a><br /><br />I wish you can share this article too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-8401676049012311462008-08-09T12:38:00.000-06:002008-08-09T12:38:00.000-06:00Dani, you are an utter moron. One post after anot...Dani, you are an utter moron. One post after another betrays the fact that you simply do NOT know what you're talking about, regarding public schools (or much of anything else, for that matter).<BR/><BR/>Just because YOU spent YOUR years in public school doing little but whoring around does NOT mean that's what everybody does there. And it does NOT mean that that is what is taught and promoted there.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Wow. Just... wow. You sicken me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1162051665414599292006-10-28T10:07:00.000-06:002006-10-28T10:07:00.000-06:00No. The majority of the quotes above are editoria...No. The majority of the quotes above are editorials--opinions of a particular person or organization. Not government agencies usurping the parent.<BR/><BR/>The NEA is the country's largest Labor Union...not a government organization. So using it as an example of how the "government" is usurping parental authority does not work. <BR/><BR/>Show me how the "government" (Congress, the President) has usurped parental authority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1162022084044436982006-10-28T01:54:00.000-06:002006-10-28T01:54:00.000-06:00Here are a few more "proofs" with verifible, non-C...Here are a few more "proofs" with verifible, non-Christian facts that the government’s objective with public education is to completely usurp all parental authority, particularly Christians, and indoctrinate their children with a secular-humanistic worldview:<BR/><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Professor Chester M. Pierce, M.D., Professor of Education and Psychiatry at Harvard, has this to say, <EM>“Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our Founding Fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well -- by creating the international child of the future.”<BR/></EM><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Former Senator Paul Hoagland of Nebraska: <EM>“The fundamentalist parents have no right to indoctrinate their children in their beliefs. We are preparing their children for the year 2000 and life in a global one-world society and those children will not fit in.”<BR/></EM><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Charles F. Potter, in the Humanist Review magazine said, <EM>“Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism. What can a theistic Sunday school's meeting for an hour once a week and teaching only a fraction of the children do to stem the tide of the five-day program of humanistic teaching?”<BR/></EM><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Joe R. Burnett, the editor of The Humanist Magazine in 1961<BR/> said, <I>"Public education is the parochial education for scientific humanism."</I><BR/><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>P. Blanchard, in 'The Humanist” 1983, continues: <EM>“I think that the most important factor moving us toward a secular society has been the educational factor. Our schools may not teach Johnny how to read properly, but the fact that Johnny is in school until he is 16 tends toward the elimination of religious superstition. The average American child now acquires a high school education, and this militates against Adam and Eve and all other myths of alleged history.”<BR/></EM><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>John J. Dunphy wrote in the Jan/Feb 1983 edition of The Humanist, <EM>“The battle for mankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom . The classroom must and will become the arena of conflict between the old and the new - the rotting corpse of Christianity and the new faith of humanism.”<BR/></EM><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Now do you believe me?Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1162021269193631882006-10-28T01:41:00.000-06:002006-10-28T01:41:00.000-06:00Anonymous said... Dani said: "Whether you agree or...Anonymous said... <BR/><BR/><I>Dani said: "Whether you agree or not, the government’s objective with public education is to completely usurp all parental authority, particularly Christians, and indoctrinate their children with a secular-humanistic worldview."<BR/><BR/>Prove this statement. With verifible, non-Christian facts.</I><BR/><BR/>------------------------ <BR/><BR/>In 1936, the National Education Association stated its position, from which they have never wavered; <EM>“We stand for socializing the individual.”</EM><BR/><BR/>The NEA in its “Policy For American Education” stated, <EM>“The major problem of education in our times arises out of the fact that we live in a period of fundamental social change. In the new democracy [we were a Republic] education must share in the responsibility of giving purpose and direction to social change. The major function of the school is the social orientation of the individual . Education must operate according to a well-formulated social policy.”<BR/></EM><BR/>Paul Haubner, specialist for the NEA, tells us, <EM>“The schools cannot allow parents to influence the kind of values-education their children receive in school; . that is what is wrong with those who say there is a universal system of values. [Christians?] Our (humanistic) goals are incompatible with theirs. We must change their values.”<BR/></EM>Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161998802997714472006-10-27T19:26:00.000-06:002006-10-27T19:26:00.000-06:00Your very own beloved PEARLS said this: we address...Your very own beloved PEARLS said this:<BR/><BR/> we addressed a growing concern: far too many homeschool kids are jumping ship at the first opportunity, throwing their Christian teaching to the wind and joining the world’s parade to hell. The first crop of homeschoolers has matured; the fruit is ripe; the time of reaping has come. It is not the day of judgment, but to many parents it feels akin to the Great Tribulation. Parents are seeing their own flesh and blood take on characteristics of the enemy. This is not a surprise to many of us. We have seen it coming for many years, predicted it in our writings, warned parents that carefully constructed religious teaching and withdrawal from worldliness were not enough. The fences parents build are able to constrain children when they are young, but the time comes, around sixteen to eighteen years of age, when the kids have the power to choose and act for themselves. Every parent holds his breathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161998443231858782006-10-27T19:20:00.000-06:002006-10-27T19:20:00.000-06:00Dani said:Whether you agree or not, the government...Dani said:Whether you agree or not, the government’s objective with public education is to completely usurp all parental authority, particularly Christians, and indoctrinate their children with a secular-humanistic worldview.<BR/><BR/>Prove this statement. With verifible, non-Christian facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161992667687838752006-10-27T17:44:00.000-06:002006-10-27T17:44:00.000-06:00Reason...So, should we take this as a retraction o...Reason...<EM>So, should we take this as a retraction of your condemnation and mis-representation of public schools?</EM><BR/><BR/>No, not at all. And I did not misrepresent the schools in anyway either. The public schools are <I>by law</I>, Godless, secular and humanistic, and they are an incubator for delinquency, illiteracy, crime and immorality.<BR/><BR/>Read this study => <A HREF="http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ewp_04.htm" REL="nofollow">- Sex, Drugs, and Delinquency in Urban and Suburban Public Schools</A><BR/><BR/>Fundamentality speaking, the public school system is inherently a bad idea because it is NOT the government responsibility to educate the children of a country. It is the primary responsibility of the <B>parents</B> to educate their own children, and when the government steps in and offers “free” education, naturally and consequently the parents become less and less involved.<BR/><BR/>If parents don’t have to pay for their children’s education they are not likely to invest the time it takes to ensure that their children are receiving proper education. When education is free, along with the benefit of having a full-time daycare, parents become progressively more lazy and less concerned with what’s going on in their children’s lives. Surely you can see this happening at school?<BR/><BR/>Whether you agree or not, the government’s objective with public education is to completely usurp all parental authority, particularly Christians, and indoctrinate their children with a secular-humanistic worldview.<BR/><BR/><EM>The trick is to gradually expose kids to the consequences of their choices as they grow up.<BR/></EM><BR/>So, is that why they are teaching sex-ed and homosexuality to students as young kindergarten these days?<BR/><BR/><EM>Hopefully you can keep them from making really big mistakes and let them learn to deal with their smaller mistakes themselves.<BR/></EM><BR/>Instead of sending my kids to public school each day, why don’t I just drop my kids off down-town in the inner city ghetto so they can will be exposed to the harsh realities of the world, and so they can have the opportunity to make mistakes on their own and deal with the consequences?<BR/><BR/>According to your logic, the younger the better and the more exposure the better. Why not just let my kids watch violent R rated movies or porn all day long? That would really prepare them for the future, wouldn’t it?<BR/><BR/><EM>I don't know how many children you have, but if you have 3 or more the odds are that at least one of them is going to be moderately rebellious. Those odds are actually significantly higher for your kids because they don't have another authority figure (like a teacher or a school in general) to rebel against. That child is most likely to be acutely rebellious between the ages of 15 and 20.<BR/></EM><BR/><BR/>I have 3 children and plan to have several more. I would also like to see some statistics on that, but I will guarantee that all those kids who rebel go to public school.<BR/><BR/>Christian homeschooling families generally do not have rebellious kids because the parents have been <I>diligent</I> as the primary authority figures in disciplining, teaching and training their children in the ways of the Lord, so when they are adults they are fully equipped for the battle.<BR/><BR/>Scripture gives us a promise in Proverbs 22:6 - <EM><STRONG>"Train up a child the way he should go, and when he is older he will not depart from it." </STRONG></EM><BR/><BR/>I have four cousins who were homeschooled and they ALL turned out wonderful without any problems because my Aunt was <EM>diligent </EM>in how she raised her children and she was attentive to their needs. She loved the LORD deeply with all her heart, soul and all her strength. She understood God's commandments and pressed them upon her heart. She then impressed those commandments upon her children, and taught them of God’s holy nature all throughout the day. From the time my cousins woke up in the morning, to the time they went to bed, my Aunt was always there guiding them in the right direction. <BR/><BR/>She home-educated each one of her four children from kindergarten through high school - And I'll tell you that NONE of them were rebellious, or have substance abuse problems, or engaged in immoral behavior. ALL four of my cousins are the most intellectual, sociable, well-grounded human beings and followers of Christ I ever had the privilege to know. ALL of them married in their twenties (partially arranged), and ALL were virgins on their wedding day. I can only strive for the same results with my own children.<BR/><BR/><EM>You can't guarantee that your kids won't rebel against you, no matter how perfect you think your home life is. Most of these kids turn out just fine, but some don't.</EM><BR/><BR/>You're right - I can't guarantee anything, but I can do my best as a parent to ensure that they won't rebel by training them in the right direction and being involved in every aspect of their lives.<BR/><BR/>Read this => <A HREF="http://www.strike-the-root.com/51/fitzgerald/fitzgerald1.html" REL="nofollow">The Myths of Home Schooling and the Inferiority of State Education</A>Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161924500872278332006-10-26T22:48:00.000-06:002006-10-26T22:48:00.000-06:00Dani does your husband sit behind you while you wr...Dani does your husband sit behind you while you write in this blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161921979917407082006-10-26T22:06:00.000-06:002006-10-26T22:06:00.000-06:00Well, you suspect wrong. It is a bit presumptuous ...<B>Well, you suspect wrong. It is a bit presumptuous and arrogant of you to assume that you know all the intimate details of my life and my relationship with my husband, and then speak with some kind of authority on the subject.</B><BR/><BR/>I don't claim to know all or even most of the intimate details of your life. What I <I>do</I> know is the story you recounted of the path you took to reach the spiritual place you're in now. You described a situation wherein your husband provided you with an ultimatum: Believe in his god in the same manner that he does, or lose his love. The ultimatum may not have been worded that way, but the meaning was the same. This situation came on the heels of a summary of your life which, as more people than me have noted, smacks of shirking responsibility for the majority of the major decisions in your life.<BR/><BR/>So, if I hear you describe a formative time of your life characterized by poor decision making, foisting blame for your own actions onto others, and other obvious indicators of flimsy moral character, I cannot help but conclude that your giving in to what, by all appearances, seems to be a cruel and manipulative ultimatum delivered by your husband was a choice informed by your previous behavioral tendencies. In other words, judging from your own stories, you've copped out on your responsibilities all your life, and it would make more sense that letting your husband dictate your religious path would follow from that rather than from some strong moral conviction.<BR/><BR/>This is the only topic on which I suspect I have any insight into. Otherwise, I do not know you from a hole in the wall, it's true. Nor would I want to, all things considered, so that eliminates your crush theory.<BR/><BR/><B>So say these things to me as an insult, but I’ll take it as a compliment...</B><BR/><BR/>My intention here is not to insult anyone, although I am well aware that my suspicions are not pleasant or agreeable to you. That said, you can take it as a compliment if you like, but that's more or less irrelevant to my discussion.<BR/><BR/><B>While we are each unique individuals, my intellectual and spiritual decisions are the same as my husband as well as our pastor, Bob Enyart, because we are all likeminded believers, otherwise known as “fundamental” Christians who take the Word of God seriously.</B><BR/><BR/>Certainly, but the issue I'm bringing up is that my suspicions about the psychology behind your decisions accounts for you feeling this way. It would make sense, if you were letting Curtis and Bob make your moral and spiritual decisions for you that you would attempt to rationalize this act by describing your situation as you have above.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you could help better inform me on this topic by telling me about some major ways that you disagree on some aspect of what your husband or Bob Enyart believe?<BR/><BR/><B>The reason many of the conversations are rendered meaningless because the founding principles upon which they are based on are compromised and redefined to fit a worldly perspective or personal agenda. Either you are a fundamental Christian who takes the Bible literally or you are a phony believer or skeptic. There is only one Truth in regards to morals absolutes and those who are predisposed towards certain answers are either ignorant of the Word or rebellious towards God.</B><BR/><BR/>In truth, this only confirms the statement that it is in response to: At the foundation of your religious beliefs is the view that anything that doesn't agree with your bible is false. Thus, you, and anyone else who differs on this point, will be unable to usefully discuss anything that stems from these respective equivalent views until they are reconciled. Until you decide that your bible is not entirely inerrant, or your opponent decides that it is, there can be no useful agreement on the logical conclusions that stem from such founding ideas.<BR/><BR/><B>This is yet another moronic statement which only demonstrates that you know absolutely nothing me or the Christian faith.</B><BR/><BR/>Actually, it demonstrates nothing at all about what I know of the Christian faith. It doesn't address anything to do with the Christian faith in any way. I'm talking about <I>you</I> and <I>your</I> relationship to your husband and Bob Enyart.<BR/><BR/><B>While it will prove to be meaningless to argue the basic details of religion, it is not because I have placed total control of beliefs in someone else's hands – it is because I am 100% certain that my beliefs in the Bible are RIGHT!</B><BR/><BR/>I heartily agree that you <I>are</I>, in fact, 100% certain that your beliefs in your bible are right. I also suspect that this 100% certainty stems from having placed control of those beliefs in someone else's hands. The doubts are not yours to have anymore, so why would you be any less than 100% certain?<BR/><BR/><B>perhaps you should educate yourself more about who I really am before you make a FOOL out of yourself – AGAIN!</B><BR/><BR/>You've had ample opportunity to convince me otherwise, Dani. Since you should know yourself better than I do, you're in a much better place to describe to me how I'm mistaken. Whenever you're ready.<BR/><BR/><B>I suggest you get your own life in order before you make false judgments about mine.</B><BR/><BR/>You haven't shown me anything yet to suggest that my <I>suspicions</I> are false. I'm more than happy to be proven wrong on this one. But regardless, how is <I>my</I> life out of order?Ubersehenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332607619856283785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161916167206359592006-10-26T20:29:00.000-06:002006-10-26T20:29:00.000-06:00good for you for stepping back from blaming teache...good for you for stepping back from blaming teachers for your mistakes/bad choices.<BR/><BR/>do you and your children get together with other homeschool children of similar/same beliefs? <BR/><BR/>how does someone get married without ever dating? is there some chaperoned courtship planned? <BR/><BR/>your life is beginning to sound a lot like many cult groups i read about. isolated, hating, thinking themselves better than other people. i hope not. truly. i hope you really do have some measure of independence in deciding what YOU want out of life, not just blindly following some preacher (or even your husband). i can pretty much guarantee that your pastor would dump you in a minute if it was in his best interests.<BR/><BR/>you made mistakes dani. that doesnt mean your children will, even in the same circumstances. they deserve a chance to live life, not be robots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161913016334238182006-10-26T19:36:00.000-06:002006-10-26T19:36:00.000-06:00So is it an arranged marriage? -probably. (I know ...So is it an arranged marriage? -probably. (I know you must be kidding).<BR/><BR/>"my intellectual and spiritual decisions are the same as my husband" because your brain washed.<BR/><BR/>Those poor poor kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161912295211560512006-10-26T19:24:00.000-06:002006-10-26T19:24:00.000-06:00Hey KC - Good to hear from you!Anon1- So will you ...Hey KC - Good to hear from you!<BR/><BR/>Anon1- <I>So will you ever allow your kids to go to a mall, a movie, or just bowling without you?</I><BR/><BR/>Nope!<BR/><BR/><I>Will they ever be allowed to go on a date?</I><BR/><BR/>Not until they get married!<BR/><BR/><I>What about driving? It's dangerous on the roads.</I> <BR/><BR/>Maybe - we'll see.<BR/><BR/><I>Will they be allowed out after dark at all?</I><BR/><BR/>Doubtful.<BR/><BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Anon2 - <I>You made choices to be "bad". I can accept that you were influenced by other students but refuse to believe you were TAUGHT by teachers</I>: <BR/><BR/>You're right. None of the teachers influenced me in a "bad" way - It was ALL my friends who pressured me into doing drugs and having sex. Granted, those were still choices I made, but if I wasn't around the negativity of my peers for 8 hours a day, I wouldn't have been easily influenced or had the opportunity to make bad choices.<BR/><BR/>As 1 Corinthians 15:33 says - <I><B> Do not be deceived: "Bad company corrupts good morals." </I></B>Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161905115522854112006-10-26T17:25:00.000-06:002006-10-26T17:25:00.000-06:00You made choices to be "bad". I can accept that yo...You made choices to be "bad". I can accept that you were influenced by other students but refuse to believe you were TAUGHT by teachers : <BR/>Dani said:<BR/>"it was OK to take drugs and be promiscuous because life has no purpose and everyone else is doing it,"<BR/><BR/>I believe you exaggerate (I'd say lie but I'm trying to be nice")just to make your point. If its true then you need to go sue that school system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161905084021274372006-10-26T17:24:00.000-06:002006-10-26T17:24:00.000-06:00Uber – It’s nice of you to psychoanalyze my life (...Uber – It’s nice of you to psychoanalyze my life (yet again), but you really don’t know anything about me other than what you read on the internet.<BR/><BR/><I>I suspect that her personal politics and religion stem from a forced dependence on her husband's opinions.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, you suspect wrong. It is a bit presumptuous and arrogant of you to assume that you know all the intimate details of my life and my relationship with my husband, and then speak with some kind of authority on the subject. <BR/><BR/>I think you have way too much free time on your hands, Uber and I suspect that you must be secretly infatuated with me or something, otherwise why would you even care? This is not the first time (or the tenth) that you have fabricated a story about my life and your childish schemes indicates that you really need to get a new hobby.<BR/><BR/>You don’t know me from a hole in the wall, Uber – Don’t pretend like you do! <BR/><BR/><I>The same desire to shift blame and responsibility for promiscuity/drug use/academic failure onto the public school system has manifested in a desire to place responsibility for her intellectual and spiritual decisions in the hands of her husband, who I further suspect has placed his in the hands of Bob Enyart.</I><BR/><BR/>You suspect wrong again. I don’t shift blame on anyone and I have taken responsibility for me past failures by repenting and making sure that my children are not faced with the same situations that would ultimately lead to their poor choices.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you should read this => <A HREF="http://worstgenerationseed.blogspot.com/2005/02/no-more-victims.html" REL="nofollow">No More Victims<BR/></A><BR/><BR/>So say these things to me as an insult, but I’ll take it as a compliment because I am not ashamed of my relationship with my husband and how he has helped me through various trials and been a spiritual leader in our family. <BR/><BR/> I’ll give you a little clue about how a Biblical marriage works just to satisfy your curiosity. When a man and woman get married in the eyes of God, they become “one flesh”, united in mind, body soul and spirit. <BR/><BR/>As Genesis 2:24 says - <I><B>"Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."</I></B><BR/><BR/>While we are each unique individuals, my intellectual and spiritual decisions are the same as my husband as well as our pastor, Bob Enyart, because we are all likeminded believers, otherwise known as “fundamental” Christians who take the Word of God seriously. My husband and I are very thankful and consider ourselves to be extremely blessed to have a pastor who has devoted his life to learning Scripture and is able to share that Godly wisdom with us. We all need to learn from someone, that is why we have teachers – to teach us. <BR/><BR/>As Jesus says in Luke 6:40 - <I><B>“A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher.”</I></B><BR/><BR/>Who's your teacher, Uber?<BR/><BR/><I>In discussions concerning religion and politics like the ones occurring on this site, many of the conversations are rendered meaningless by the fact that the founding principles upon which they are based are at odds with eachother. If a fundamental Christian argues that homosexuality is evil and dangerous, and another less fundamental individual argues that it is healthy and normal, the discussion has avoided the fact that both are somewhat predisposed towards certain answers, given their respective religious stances.</I><BR/><BR/>The reason many of the conversations are rendered meaningless because the founding principles upon which they are based on are compromised and redefined to fit a worldly perspective or personal agenda. Either you are a fundamental Christian who takes the Bible literally or you are a phony believer or skeptic. There is only one Truth in regards to morals absolutes and those who are predisposed towards certain answers are either ignorant of the Word or rebellious towards God.<BR/><BR/><I>Even further, in Dani's case, it is often meaningless to argue the basic details of religion, since she has placed total control of her beliefs in someone else's hands. It's not her mind we're trying to change on religious matters, because someone already made up her mind years ago. The very founding issue, at the root of her belief system, is not the inerrancy of her bible; it's the inerrancy of the religious beliefs of her husband, Curtis Kekoa, and her pastor, Bob Enyart. Her dependency on them is the key to everything else that stems from that point.</I><BR/><BR/>This is yet another moronic statement which only demonstrates that you know absolutely nothing me or the Christian faith. While it will prove to be meaningless to argue the basic details of religion, it is not because I have placed total control of beliefs in someone else's hands – it is because I am 100% certain that my beliefs in the Bible are RIGHT! <BR/><BR/>The very founding issue, at the root of my belief system, is the inerrancy of Bible which is also the root of my husband’s belief system and the religious beliefs my pastor. ALL of our beliefs stem from the same source – The Bible.<BR/><BR/>So while you may think you have achieved some noble calling by psychoanalyzing my life to make me look needy and desperate, perhaps you should educate yourself more about who I really am before you make a FOOL out of yourself – AGAIN!<BR/><BR/>I suggest you get your own life in order before you make false judgments about mine.Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161896286763791282006-10-26T14:58:00.000-06:002006-10-26T14:58:00.000-06:00Are you people for real?? You're quoting Adolf Hi...Are you people for real?? You're quoting Adolf Hitler?!? A vicious murderer who commited worse sins than anyone of that time. And you quote him why?!?! What the hell is the matter with some of you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161871842992564752006-10-26T08:10:00.000-06:002006-10-26T08:10:00.000-06:00Hey Dani......Just Popped in to see how the war wa...Hey Dani......Just Popped in to see how the war was waging here this week...LOL... I wanted to see what new fact was pissing off the ranks of demons. For clarity I was educated in both public and catholic, (catholic first then public with afternoon religous instruction).<BR/><BR/>Todays news items include the Muslim teachings in calif schools.... LOVELY! First they teach them how to be sexual then they teach them to be queer, now they are teaching them how to be muslims.<BR/><BR/>The one thing I can see happening if they keep pushing the muslim teachings....The sodomites will go back into the closets. I truly believe if the muslims get ahold of our gov't it will be over for everyone and esp. the "PRIDEFUL" SINNERS!KChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10206920431503040577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161839039911265902006-10-25T23:03:00.000-06:002006-10-25T23:03:00.000-06:00So will you ever allow your kids to go to a mall, ...So will you ever allow your kids to go to a mall, a movie, or just bowling without you? Will they ever be allowed to go on a date? how long will you keep them in cotton wool? What about driving? It's dangerous on the roads. Will they be allowed out after dark at all?<BR/><BR/>Im just saying you can't protect them from everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161837908403976262006-10-25T22:45:00.000-06:002006-10-25T22:45:00.000-06:00Reason…I have to say that it sounds like you are b...Reason…<BR/><BR/><I>I have to say that it sounds like you are blaming the public education system for the choices YOU made while you were a young person. No matter what anyone else does, we are all ultimately responsible for our own actions. It wasn't the public schools that made you promiscuous, or a drug user, or a bully. Those were choices you made with your own life.</I><BR/><BR/>No - I’m not blaming the public education system for the choices I made while I was young, but I am saying that going to government school contributed to a large portion of my delinquency and poor choices because I was not in the loving care and protection of my parents during the day. The main problem is not the public school itself, the main problem is a dysfunctional family at home. <BR/><BR/>If you would have read further you would already know this => <A HREF="http://bureaucraticdaycare.blogspot.com/2005/06/root-problem.html" REL="nofollow">THE ROOT PROBLEM</A><BR/><BR/><I>The educators in the public school system do care about their students and do want to help people who are engaged in self-destructive behaviors.</I><BR/><BR/>You mean the few educators that care who are not having sexual relations with the students? <BR/><BR/><I>I'm going to make an educated guess that several teachers tried to intervene and help you out of your problems, but if you blew them off and continued to pass your classes, there's almost nothing that they could have done to force you to change.</I><BR/><BR/>Partially true – there is almost nothing that my teachers could have done to force me to change – but none of them really tried because I was the punk in the class that was determined to make their lives living hell. <BR/><BR/><BR/><I>It was the CHOICES YOU MADE and not the situation you were in that led to your problems. Stop blaming everyone else for not saving you from your own stupidity. "But," you might say, "I was brainwashed with secular humanism that taught me that it was OK to take drugs and be promiscuous because life has no purpose." I'm sorry, but that's just not the case. </I><BR/><BR/>I realize those were the choices I made, but if I wasn’t placed in secular humanistic institution all day for 12 years that taught me it was OK to take drugs and be promiscuous because life has no purpose and everyone else is doing it, then I wouldn’t have had the opportunity to make those bad choices.<BR/><BR/>I am not blaming everyone else - I take responsibility for my choices and part of that responsibility is to warn Christian parents not to place their children in that kind of hostel environment every day.Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161807724902916882006-10-25T14:22:00.000-06:002006-10-25T14:22:00.000-06:00I've been trying to encourage conversations like t...I've been trying to encourage conversations like this one on Dani's site for a while. It's good to see someone else chiming in on the subject. <BR/><BR/>I suspect that her personal politics and religion stem from a forced dependence on her husband's opinions. This dependence, in turn, was developed during her formative years through the same poor choices under discussion here.<BR/><BR/>The same desire to shift blame and responsibility for promiscuity/drug use/academic failure onto the public school system has manifested in a desire to place responsibility for her intellectual and spiritual decisions in the hands of her husband, who I further suspect has placed his in the hands of Bob Enyart.<BR/><BR/>In discussions concerning religion and politics like the ones occurring on this site, many of the conversations are rendered meaningless by the fact that the founding principles upon which they are based are at odds with eachother. If a fundamental Christian argues that homosexuality is evil and dangerous, and another less fundamental individual argues that it is healthy and normal, the discussion has avoided the fact that both are somewhat predisposed towards certain answers, given their respective religious stances. If they are unable to agree on their religious beliefs, they will likely be unable to agree on many issues that stem from holding such beliefs.<BR/><BR/>Even further, in Dani's case, it is often meaningless to argue the basic details of religion, since she has placed total control of her beliefs in someone else's hands. It's not her mind we're trying to change on religious matters, because someone already made up her mind years ago. The very founding issue, at the root of her belief system, is not the inerrancy of her bible; it's the innerancy of the religious beliefs of her husband, Curtis Kekoa, and her pastor, Bob Enyart. Her dependency on them is the key to everything else that stems from that point.Ubersehenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17332607619856283785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161791316345719692006-10-25T09:48:00.000-06:002006-10-25T09:48:00.000-06:00I also applaud you reason.Dani knows very little a...I also applaud you reason.<BR/>Dani knows very little about personal responsibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161789563613649982006-10-25T09:19:00.000-06:002006-10-25T09:19:00.000-06:00*Stands up and applauds reason* That couldn't have...*Stands up and applauds reason* That couldn't have been put any better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161746223255783592006-10-24T21:17:00.000-06:002006-10-24T21:17:00.000-06:00Now, how would YOUR ideal school include religion?...Now, how would YOUR ideal school include religion? just christianity? comparative studies of all the major religions? wicca? when you have religious study with your children do you include other religions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161740975772613042006-10-24T19:49:00.000-06:002006-10-24T19:49:00.000-06:00Reason - The problem I have is that you condemned ...Reason - <I>The problem I have is that you condemned the public school system for not catering to your particular religious beliefs.</I><BR/><BR/>Let me make myself perfectly clear: Public schools are fine for the secular kids of the world - but <B><I>Christian</B></I> kids have no place being educated in the government schools. It is irresponsible, disobedient and foolish for <B><I>Christian</B></I> parents to send their kids to be educated for 8 hours a day in a place where God is irrelevant to all the teachings! <BR/><BR/>----------------<BR/><BR/>Anon - <I>what WOULD religious studies in a school look like?</I> <BR/><BR/>Read this => <A HREF="http://bureaucraticdaycare.blogspot.com/2005/11/pagan-religions-taught-in-public.html" REL="nofollow">Pagan Religions Taught In Public Schools: </A><BR/><BR/>Multiculturalism studies, environmental propaganda, and Save-the-Earth classes now indoctrinate children with New-Age religious beliefs, often without parents’ knowledge. Public schools sometimes try to sneak offensive pagan or new-age religions into their curriculum without parents’ knowledge under the guise of multiculturalism studies.<BR/><BR/>In January, 2003, a group of parents sued a Sacramento Unified School District because certain teachers at their local elementary school were aggressively, and secretly, teaching anthroposophy, a religion that combines traditional Western religion with astrology and New Age religion. Pacific Justice Institute lawyers representing the parents indicated that many other public schools in California are now adding New Age and Eastern religions, including Islam, to their curricula.<BR/><BR/>Below is only a small sample of the flood of “spiritual” sessions taking place in classrooms throughout the country:<BR/><BR/><B>1. Altered states of consciousness:</B> Teaching students to alter their consciousness through centering exercises, guided imagery, and visualizations has become standard practice in self-esteem, multicultural, and arts programs. They often encourage contact with spirit guides.<BR/><BR/><B>2. Dreams and visions:</B> After studying a pagan myth, students are often asked to imagine or visualize a dream or vision, then describe it in a journal or lesson assignment.<BR/><BR/><B>3. Astrology: </B>Countless teachers across the country require students to document their daily horoscopes. Others help students discover their powers and personalities through Aztec calendars and Chinese.<BR/><BR/><B>4. Other forms of divination:</B> Through palmistry, I Ching, tarot cards and horoscopes, students learn to experience other cultures and tap into secret sources of wisdom. Students in Texas were told to create a vision in their minds and “describe in your best soothsayer tones the details of your vision.”<BR/><BR/><B>5. Spiritism:</B> While pagan myths and crafts show students how to contact ancestral, nature, and other spirits, classroom rituals actually invoke their presence. California third-graders had to alter their consciousness through guided imagery, invoke or “see” their personal animal spirits, write about their experience . . . and create their own magical medicine shields to represent their spirit helper.<BR/><BR/><B>6. Magic, spells, and sorcery:</B> Many parents consider magic and spell-casting too bizarre and alien to pose a threat, yet gullible students from coast to coast are learning the ancient formulas and occult techniques.Dani Kekoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551545245512227602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10162561.post-1161738067511534412006-10-24T19:01:00.000-06:002006-10-24T19:01:00.000-06:00dani, what WOULD religious studies in a school loo...dani, what WOULD religious studies in a school look like?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com